Because Army-Navy is better than Michigan-Ohio State, the Triple Option always trumps the Run and Shoot, and college football is most nearly itself when it's played by actual student athletes.
Not to be a "party-pooper", ... but even though Feinstein finished it off well, ... Saturday's victory is NOT even close to resembling the 1980 Olympics "Miracle on Ice". Totally different sport, venue, circumstance, etc... ---> Soviet Hockey team was the domineering world champion through the course of at least 4 straight Olympics/European championships covering that recent span of 20 something years. Notre Dame hasn't really been "relevant" amongst the elite of college football for decades now (When was the last time they were even "awarded" a national championship?), ... even though there is total truth to the recruit talent "mis-match", so Navy will always be the underdog. Also Navy has played ND every year since 1963, ... and there has been plenty of really close calls (And to a few hard-core fotball fans, Navy was the real victor in 1999 after that outrageously criminal "spot" after the failed ND 4th & 10 pass play) --> Pretty sure the US hockey team never got within 5 goals the previous times they had played the Soviet national team??? Those who "long awaited" that article must be a little disappointed, ... no? I've seen "same night" posts from REAL Navy fans that have carried much deeper sentiment & eloquence.
Roger that Adam, ... I failed to catch the bit of "sarcasym" from your initial post --> My bad. I am not a big John Feinstein fan by any stretch of the imagination by the way.
Envy your being out in South Bend to witness this great game in person. What a glorious win.
Dan, no need to be a party pooper as you said. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so you can behold the win however you want. What Feinstein did was write eloquently about your son's team. Why drizzle on that parade?
The comparison to the 1980 USA Hockey team is probably lofty, but Mr. Feinstein is a dramatic personality and this was a dramatic win, so I personally don't have a problem with this article. Do I think Feinstein probably obsessed too much about the streak? Well sure, but then again he's in a very public position. Obviously some people "suffered" through this streak much longer than others (I would be in the latter party) but the great thing is we all celebrated as one. It's why a Class of '77 grad gave me a hug jumping up and down and a 12 year old kid and I yelled victoriously at each other for a minute after the final stop. Like I said earlier, I just wish that all Navy fans could of been in the stands on Saturday afternoon.
Anonymous, The only real issue I had w/ the article was the "apples & oranges" direct correlation to that "Miracle on Ice" Olympic hockey win in 1980. It just doesn't fit. Lets be honest here. Otherwise I believe gave him "a BZ" for the remainder of it? Sorry, ... but he is at best a "manufactored" Navy fan. If you have ever read his "A Civil War", ... you will find it much more "complementary" of West Point and the Black Knights of the Hudson, ... and critical of Navy. Of course during that timeframe, ... Army was regularly "carrying the day" at the annual classic, ... so can't fault him for jumping on the winning "bandwagon" then.
Say Adam, ... who was that '77er you were hugging after the game?
Dan, the USA hockey win was dramatic. The Navy win was dramatic. Both wins were viewed in a positive manner throughout the country. Both can be characterized as a David vs Goliath scenario. America loves the underdog. Using this logic, it might be more "apples to apples" than "apples to oranges". Your BZ was an aside comment consisting of about 7-8 words at the beginning, I wouldn't call that the remainder of your post. So we disagree, does it really matter? I read the Civil War and disagree with your assessment. He has been a color commentator for Navy not Army for about 10 years. What is a "manufactured fan", aren't we all?
I think I said I gave him a "BZ" for the remainder of his article (not my post) ... Please read "A Civil War" again, ... and if you truly feel that I am wrong about my saying that he is much more critical of Navy/USNA (and conversely, very complementary of Army/West Point), ... then I will happily buy you a cold beer. Of course it has been about 10 years since I did read it, ... so don't pass up this opportunity my friend. GO NAVY!!!
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Not to be a "party-pooper", ... but even though Feinstein finished it off well, ... Saturday's victory is NOT even close to resembling the 1980 Olympics "Miracle on Ice". Totally different sport, venue, circumstance, etc... ---> Soviet Hockey team was the domineering world champion through the course of at least 4 straight Olympics/European championships covering that recent span of 20 something years. Notre Dame hasn't really been "relevant" amongst the elite of college football for decades now (When was the last time they were even "awarded" a national championship?), ... even though there is total truth to the recruit talent "mis-match", so Navy will always be the underdog. Also Navy has played ND every year since 1963, ... and there has been plenty of really close calls (And to a few hard-core fotball fans, Navy was the real victor in 1999 after that outrageously criminal "spot" after the failed ND 4th & 10 pass play) --> Pretty sure the US hockey team never got within 5 goals the previous times they had played the Soviet national team???
Those who "long awaited" that article must be a little disappointed, ... no? I've seen "same night" posts from REAL Navy fans that have carried much deeper sentiment & eloquence.
GO NAVY ... Beat North Texas!!!
It was "long awaited" because Mr. Feinstein has been one of the media members who had "hyped" up the streak to what it was.
Roger that Adam, ... I failed to catch the bit of "sarcasym" from your initial post --> My bad.
I am not a big John Feinstein fan by any stretch of the imagination by the way.
Envy your being out in South Bend to witness this great game in person. What a glorious win.
GO NAVY!!!
Dan, no need to be a party pooper as you said. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so you can behold the win however you want. What Feinstein did was write eloquently about your son's team. Why drizzle on that parade?
The comparison to the 1980 USA Hockey team is probably lofty, but Mr. Feinstein is a dramatic personality and this was a dramatic win, so I personally don't have a problem with this article. Do I think Feinstein probably obsessed too much about the streak? Well sure, but then again he's in a very public position. Obviously some people "suffered" through this streak much longer than others (I would be in the latter party) but the great thing is we all celebrated as one. It's why a Class of '77 grad gave me a hug jumping up and down and a 12 year old kid and I yelled victoriously at each other for a minute after the final stop. Like I said earlier, I just wish that all Navy fans could of been in the stands on Saturday afternoon.
Anonymous,
The only real issue I had w/ the article was the "apples & oranges" direct correlation to that "Miracle on Ice" Olympic hockey win in 1980. It just doesn't fit. Lets be honest here.
Otherwise I believe gave him "a BZ" for the remainder of it? Sorry, ... but he is at best a "manufactored" Navy fan. If you have ever read his "A Civil War", ... you will find it much more "complementary" of West Point and the Black Knights of the Hudson, ... and critical of Navy. Of course during that timeframe, ... Army was regularly "carrying the day" at the annual classic, ... so can't fault him for jumping on the winning "bandwagon" then.
Say Adam, ... who was that '77er you were hugging after the game?
GO NAVY ... Beat the Mean Green!!!
Dan, the USA hockey win was dramatic. The Navy win was dramatic. Both wins were viewed in a positive manner throughout the country. Both can be characterized as a David vs Goliath scenario. America loves the underdog. Using this logic, it might be more "apples to apples" than "apples to oranges". Your BZ was an aside comment consisting of about 7-8 words at the beginning, I wouldn't call that the remainder of your post. So we disagree, does it really matter?
I read the Civil War and disagree with your assessment.
He has been a color commentator for Navy not Army for about 10 years.
What is a "manufactured fan", aren't we all?
I think I said I gave him a "BZ" for the remainder of his article (not my post) ... Please read "A Civil War" again, ... and if you truly feel that I am wrong about my saying that he is much more critical of Navy/USNA (and conversely, very complementary of Army/West Point), ... then I will happily buy you a cold beer.
Of course it has been about 10 years since I did read it, ... so don't pass up this opportunity my friend. GO NAVY!!!
Dan, been 10 years for me as well. Again beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Its all good.
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